Foam Alteration
Guide and Prices
for Custom Seat Services / Sargent
Cycle Products, N.A.
(UPDATED 8/06)Foam alteration is a great way to customize your bike
and, in many cases, it can improve comfort. Sargent Cycle Products is pleased to offer
limited foam alterations to stock and aftermarket motorcycle seats. This information is
designed to help you make good decisions and convey your ideas more accurately.
If it's comfort you're after...
You may have come to the right place. But before making any alteration decisions, we
highly recommend that you our read The Road to Comfort
first. The Road to Comfort is a short document that
outlines the various causes of riding discomfort.
What we need from you.
For best results, we need a graphic illustration of your request with specifications in
inches. Graphic illustrations may include simple line drawings or marking on the seat
itself. Cardboard templates are ideal. Photographs of other seats are also helpful but,
because they lack concrete specs, they are best for indicating general styling only.
Please keep instructions brief. In the world of foam alterations, a good illustration
speaks a thousand words.
Please note: We
perform foam alterations to the best of our ability based on the specifications given by
the customer. Please remember that hand-sculpting of foam is more art than science. The
more complex the request, the more difficult accuracy can be, and exact
translation of complex requests is not guaranteed.
Please review the Custom Foam Alteration Policy.
| Foam
talk. Obviously, when discussing your foam alteration needs we should be
"speaking the same language." The illustration on the right shows how we define
the various parts of a motorcycle seat foam. |
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Upholstery
talk. The illustration on the right shows how we define the various upholstery
components.
For more information about
upholstery details, please visit our Upholstery Styling Guide. |
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How to top it off.
Once your seat foam has been reshaped, our standard upholstery patterns will no longer
fit. So we will be making a one-off pattern for your seat. If you have specific ideas with
regard to seam placement, type of seams, or general upholstery configuration, just let us
know. Otherwise, we will use our expertise and style it for you. To get an idea of how we
typically style the upholstery on various seat shapes, you may want to have a look at our Upholstery Styling Guide.
Remember. When
specifying foam cuts, be aware of base-pan contours to make sure there are no conflicts.
It is always best to create angle specifications with the seat mounted on the bike. Also,
please avoid changes to the nose of the seat or the tank/seat junction may be compromised.
Please note: The
prices listed are for basic foam alteration work and custom styling of the upholstery
only. These prices are in addition to the base price and any extra options as outlined in
our general price list. Prices are subject to change without
notice.
Basic foam alterations.
The following are examples of some of the most common foam alterations and their prices.
Lowering the driver's seat
(Fig. 2).
Although sometimes done for aesthetics, this operation is most often used to improve the
driver's reach to the ground. There are a few things to remember:
1. When specifying how much foam to remove, carefully check the base-pan contours to
determine exactly how much foam you have to work with.
2. Remember that the more foam removed, the more comfort may be diminished. With this in
mind, we recommend the Super CellTM foam upgrade as a part of the process (Fig. 2).
3. If the purpose is to improve reach to the ground, we can taper the foam on the sides in
the thigh area as well.

With Super Cell Installed $90.00
(Fig. 2) |
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Solo
rear (Fig. 3).
This common modification gives the seat a sporty single-seat appearance. Since the angles
of the solo section must often be sculpted to blend with the lines of the bike, it is
essential to provide accurate templates and/or illustrations with specs. If you have a
preference, please specify the rise angle and its height as well as the top and side
angles of the solo section.
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Price $90.00 (Fig. 3) |
Move
the rise (Fig. 4).
This alteration is usually used to give the driver or the passenger more room. When doing
this modification, we can also change the angle of the rise (i.e. steeper or more
gradual). Just indicate your preference with a good illustration or template. |

Price $75.00 (Fig. 4) |
Changing the platform angles
(Fig. 5). This type of modification is normally used to correct foam that is pushing the
driver or passenger into an undesirable position. The price listed is for modifying either
the driver or passenger section only. To do both is an additional charge.
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Price $75.00 (Fig. 5)
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| NOTE: To indicate a level
platform angle, have someone hold the bike upright (not on the side or center stand) and
use a carpenter's level to mark a level line on the side of the seat - for our reference. |
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Installing Super CellTM Atomic Foam (Fig. 6).
Super CellTM Atomic Foam is designed to replace the top
2" of stock foam. It is recommended if the stock foam is too soft and bottoms out.
While this foam may seem firm, it retains its suspension value under full load. While
this service maintains the stock contour, it may be done in conjunction with other foam
services.
Please see the The Road To Comfort for more details
on foam suspension and Super Cell Atomic Foam. |

Price $75.00 Front Only
Front and Rear for $100.00 (Fig. 6) |
Widening
and dishing (Fig. 7).
Widening and/or dishing of the seating platform is one method of increasing comfort. For
best results, 2" of Super Cell Atomic Foam is installed as part of the process.
Note: Dishing is only recommended for seats that are already 12" wide or more and
widening is limited to about 1" beyond the existing seat-pan width.
Generally, the "front & rear" service includes the Super Cell foam upgrade
in both seating areas; widening and dishing the driver's area, and widening and scalloping
the passenger's area. |

Price $175.00 Front Only
Front and Rear for $225.00 |
Other stuff. If
you don't see what you want illustrated above, don't worry. Other basic foam alterations
do exist and simple requests start at $45.00. Please call or fax us with your request for
a price quote.
Complex foam alterations. Combinations
of operations listed above are not out of the question. These are considered complex foam
alterations and are priced based on the degree of difficulty. Please call in or fax us
your specifications for pricing and pre-approval. And please review our Custom Foam Alteration Policy.
See also the more detailed foam pricing on the Custom Seat
Services Price List. As you begin to stack foam alteration services, the foam
pricing is adjusted accordingly.
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